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by
Sergio Motta,
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Sergio
Motta - In the beginning you were a cover band, however you also had
some
self-composed
songs as mentioned by yourselves. By the way, what has become of these
old
songs, were they cast aside?
John
van Heugten: In 1993 we recorded a demo tape with four songs on
it. A few of these songs are still in the Ricocher set-list. The other
old songs are only played in the rehearsal room to gather some old memories…
Mostly because they aren’t as good as the songs we write nowadays.
You
have also mentioned that the band was musically growing along the time,
and also
personal
as well as being a band. Was that change somewhat natural, or did you sit
together
to talk about a possible change on the band’s direction?
John
van Heugten: Mostly it was a natural change. We grow up and become
older and we become aware that there is more than just having fun. Musically
we grow as well, because we got more and more live experiences and you
get the chance to learn a lot from other music and musicians you hear.
Our
first songs were a bunch of ideas in a certain order and that was it. The
songs we write today do have a better structure. The different themes inside
one song do really fit together. If necessary we cut away a part of the
song to improve it. In the beginning we didn’t dare to do this.
Next
to that our former guitar player left in 1999 and we had to search for
a new guy. The former guitar player was a more blues orientated player
and Bart is more rock/soul orientated. This changes the music a bit
as well.
Because
we play together for a long time, we get to know each other’s weaknesses
and strengths. When we’re playing live and someone makes a mistake, the
other four are picking it up and the song goes on. In the first years we
didn’t know how to handle with these mistakes.
Another
point is the studio. When recording the first album in the studio we learned
a lot about song structures and which way to build up a song. We used this
to write the new songs. Now we have recorded our second album, again a
lot is learned. This again will be used to write new songs.
It
seems to me that the first Cd from Ricocher was already to be on the market
since a
long
time ago, but due to some divergences in ideas between the band and the
former
guitar
player made all the plans of the band fall through. What was in fact around
this
conflicting
point between you?
John
van Heugten: The former guitar player told us that he didn’t want
to make this kind of music and that he wanted to do more live performances.
The fact is that he told it to us one hour before we would go to the studio
and book it…. He moved to a rock-cover band and at this moment he plays
in a band with own written songs. It’s more rock orientated then we are.
But we’re still friends, he even told us that it was really hard for him
being in the audience and see us on stage as support act for Saga and not
being there with us. That’s the risk when you make a certain decision.
Afterward
it was good for Ricocher that we didn’t record the album at that time;
it gave us the chance to grow and be better prepared before going in the
studio. Because this, I also got the chance to meet Mattias Norén
(http://www.progart.com/) on the
Internet. He has designed the artwork for our first album so we decided
to ask him again for our new album. And again he has done a great job.
After
a few months of search a new guitar player was finally found. How did you
find
him,
and what made you say: ‘’This is the guy that we were really looking for’’?!
John
van Heugten: First of all he’s my second cousin, so he had to be
very good J.
We had seen him playing with some of his former bands and we were really
impressed by his playing and the easyness he showed (little did we know
then…).
Before
asking him we had advertised, but non of the candidates met the demands
we had for the guitar player we were looking for. So we decided to call
him and ask him if he was interested. Firstly he wasn’t really interested,
he just quited his last band due to some conflicts. But after hearing our
music and playing together with us during rehearsal, he decided to give
it a try.
The
first Cd of your band ‘’Quest for the Heartland’’ was warmly received by
the prog fans
and
also by the prog press around the world. Was this outcome expected
already by
you
anyway?
John
van Heugten: We didn’t expect this at all. When we started the
recording we hoped to get some regional exposure and get some nice gigs
in our neighborhood. After sending the album to the Dutch Progressive Rock
Page, they wrote a good review. We received a lot of requests to send the
album to other reviewers. They all wrote very positive reviews and the
requests kept growing and growing.
I also
sent a copy of the album to the Arena fan club and after a while they called
us if we were interested in playing as support act for Arena on their fan
club convention. This also happened with the Bospop Festival.
After
the album was reviewed in the Classic Rock Societies magazine, we got a
mail from its chairman Martin Hudson if we were interested in playing on
their annual Rotherham Rocks Festival amongst bands like Pallas, Threshold
and Landmarq. Thanks to this gig we were even voted for “BEST NEW BAND
2001” by the readers of the magazine.
All
these highlights were much better than we had ever dreamt of…. It’s very
strange to see the band’s name growing. We’re just a bunch of guys who
play the music we like and certainly a lot of people seemed to like what
we’re doing…Very strange.
Are
you able to describe your feeling towards the pleasing words spoken by
Martin
Orford
and Clive Nolan about Ricocher’s music?
John
van Heugten: What can I say? I’m the keyboard player of Ricocher
and these two persons are my heroes… It’s one of the finest things to hear.
My big examples are saying these wonderful things about our music. I met
them both and they are really nice and very interested in Ricocher!
On
December 6th Ricocher won an award at the classic rock society as being
the best
new
band. Does this event take place periodically?
John
van Heugten: Yes, The CRS has his annual Best Of The Year Awards
Night. It was a real honor for us to become the Best New Band 2001. This
proves that the people who are interested in progressive rock music like
us. After our appearance at the Rotherham Rocks Festival a lot of people
came to us and gave us big compliments. They wanted to be on pictures with
us and they wanted our autographs. It felt like if we were big rock stars….This
year we will again appear on the Rotherham Rocks Festival and we hope people
like it even more this time.
It
has come to my knowledge that you have plans to record an new Cd whose
title will be
‘’Haunted
By Dreams’’, however in view to make it possible you have asked the fans
of
the
band to co-operate financially. By the way, what’s the fans’ reaction so
far?
John
van Heugten: The album title has been changed to “Cathedral of
Emotions” and it is already recorded and mixed. At this moment the master
is made, so the album will be available in a couple of weeks. The album
will contain 9 songs with a total time of almost 1 hour.
To
record an album a very big amount of money is needed. Ricocher already
had the biggest part financed, but still a part of the costs wasn’t covered.
We decided to ask people to become a sponsor. Another idea we saw other
bands used (ex. Marillion, Fish) was to make it possible for the fans to
pre-order the album. This way we hoped to sell at least 70-80 albums. Fortunately
things went very good and we managed to sell 145 albums as a pre-sales.
We’ve
also contacted a lot of distributors who already sold our previous album.
They first want to hear the music and if they think it’s worthwhile they
will order their copies as well.
Many
other plans are being worked out, but they’re not certain yet.
Sergio
Motta
is
a friend and partiner from the Progressive Rock And Progressive Metal Site
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Erwin
Boerenkamps - Vocals, Guitar
Bart
van Helmond - Guitar, Backing Vocals
John
van Heugten - Keyboards, Backing Vocals
Maikel
van der Meer - Drums, Percussion
Niels
Nijssen - Bassguitar, Backing Vocals
Ricocher
Discography:
"Quest
for the Heartland"
Contact:
For
bookings or more information write or call to the following address or
phone numbers:
Ricocher
Langstraat
27
5721
WX Asten
Tel.
:+31-(0)493-695113
Tel.
:+31-(0)493-323661
Or
send an e-mail to
John
van Heugten
Erwin
Boerenkamps
Ricocher
Home Page
www.ricocher.com/
The
five-piece progressive rock band Ricocher was formed in 1993 in the South
of the Netherlands. The name of this band was Truss. Three of the five
members had been playing together in the school band Frontline. In the
first year the band played covers and a few own written songs. In the following
year the band had written enough material and they stopped playing covers.
After some gigs it seemed to work out right.
To get lost of the cover image the band decided to change the name into
Ricocher. Ricocher got very positive reactions to their music and their
musicianship. All these reactions made Ricocher decide to record some songs
in the studio. As a result Ricocher released a demo-tape, called "A Scream
For Help", in 1994. In the years that followed Ricocher played on many
festivals and stages in the southern part of the Netherlands.
In these years Ricocher its music had changed through time. The songs were
more mature than the songs that could be heard on the demo-tape. The band
also had the feeling that they had been growing musically, personal as
well as being a band.
Because of this reasons Ricocher wanted to record the new material on CD.
Just before Ricocher wanted to book the recording studio, the guitarist
decided to leave Ricocher because of a difference in ideas. So instead
of recording, Ricocher had to search for a new guitarist.
After a few months of searching and auditions Ricocher believed they had
found the right person. Ricocher started rehearsing to ensure the new guitarist
would be able to become a real member of Ricocher. In the end of 1999 Ricocher
played their first gig on a festival in the current line up. Ricocher also
restarted the pre-production for the recording of their first CD, "Quest
for the Heartland" and the Markant Studio was booked. The songs have been
recorded and mixed at the Markant Recording Studio in July and August 2000
and the release of the CD was in September 2000. Ricocher found Mattias
Norén willing to do the artwork for the CD (www.progart.com).
On the evening of the CD presentation, Ricocher also opened their website
(www.ricocher.com). The reactions on the debut album of Ricocher where
overwhelming. Reviews from all over the world where very positive.
Some noticeable reactions:
"I think it's one of the best new prog albums I've heard for a long time"
(Martin Orford-IQ)
"The album sounds great. I must admit, I find it hard to know what to suggest
for you • guys to do next, but keep moving forward with it." (Clive Nolan
- Arena)
As a consequence of the quality of the album, Ricocher has managed to play
many concerts. Some highlights are the support acts for Saga on their Dutch
shows en of course the support act of Arena on their fan club convention
on 3rd June. Next to that Ricocher has played on the Breda Barst festival,
the Bospop festival and the Rotherham Rocks Festival in the UK. Because
of the concert in Rotherham, Ricocher was voted for Best New Band 2001
on the Classic Rock Society Awards night. Ricocher is also writing new
material, which will appear on the new album. The schedule is that the
new album will be recorded in Februari and March 2002 and will be released
in May 2002. |